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RE: Getting My Squat back on track (FOR GOOD): Part two


40 lbs till back on track now..

Sq: work: 355X5X3 sets
BP: work: 345X5,5,5,9 - wow PR
DL: work: 435X5

Tried Beyond Nutrition's (my supplement sponsor) All Out tonight. I think it had something to do with my bench PR for reps on last set. I had at least one more in me but I like to stop when the reps are good but slowing down fast and not when my rotator cuff is about to tear. Squats and deads were solid tonight. Only 40 lbs away from my deadlift PR for 5 reps and 40 lbs away from my squat PR for 3 sets of 5 now. My adductor is all healed up; if it weren't I doubt I'd get this far again. My knee doesn't hurt on squats or deads but I'm still not great walking up and down stairs but there's really no pain with it. I'm just uncoordinated at this point from so many months of avoiding it, or always using my "strong" knee.

Would've tried to see if I could've gone to GSBB tonight but I had to drop my car off at the shop today and I had to rely on my wife for transportation.

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FSQ: 5 sets ramped
G row: 3 sets ramped


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Dwayne

It just always amazes me that you BP is basically the same as your squat - just impressive!!

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Dave, I think it really is a matter that I was built more for bench than I was for squat. I've got a deep rib box and I have shortish thickish upper arms for my height. My elbows are above my belly button.

For squat I have really long thigh bones and a relatively shorter torso...which gets me into a shallower back angle down (more bent over than 45 degrees) at the bottom of the squat. So squats require a lot more effort for my build while bench really doesn't.

The nice thing about this is that squats really build my lower back, glutes and hams a lot more due to my build and the larger range of motion than a regularly proportioned person. This is also why that area is also a strength for me when I'm in bodybuilding condition.

The other nice thing is that it allows me to make a lot of progress on my deadlifts without training them with a ton of volume because the squat really overlaps a lot for me due to my build.

So, it works out for me on the bodybuilding end and somewhat on the powerlifting end....in the end in powerlifting, its all about the total and if I can push up any number, that's what I'm going to do.

A person with a longer torso and shorter thigh bones has potential to put up much bigger squat numbers...just like a person with extra long arms can put up more numbers on a deadlift and a person with shorter arms and a thick torso can put up more numbers on bench. We've all got our gifts and areas of improvement.
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SQ: work: 365X5X3..solid again - 30 more lbs till full strength aka 3 more jumps aka 1 Friday workout, 1 Tuesday workout and then 1 more Friday workout before I get a chance to match my 3 sets of 5 PR set in April before all the knee BS. Goal is to get to 405X5X3 before Thanksgiving so I can eat up and make a run into the 400's.

Press: work: 215X5,5,5,5 - PR on total sets but not reps per set - think I'll go to 2.5 lb jumps now.

Chins: extended set: 11-20sec rest-5-20sec rest-3....going to try to get the initial number back up to 20 and hopefully consistently.



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Bicep tendonitis is back in my left arm. I actually think the initial irritation began after the meet carrying Olivia around after setting my new max.

Now that I'm 'older and wiser' I will take this as a sign to give benching a break for a couple weeks instead of pushing it into oblivion. A few weeks off of bench is better than needing a few months (like I have done in the past).

I'm kind of bummed because I hit some great PR's the last couple weeks with it. Instead I'm going to focus on my overhead press and continuing making my shoulders strong while giving the bicep tendon a break.

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Also, its time that I switch my presses/bench presses to different programming to allow for more recovery and continued progression. What I've come up with is based on the Texas Method but not an exact copy of it.

Once my tendonitis is mostly gone (approximately 2 weeks), I will do the following:
Friday:
BP or Press volume event
Sunday:
Light presses and bicep work (recovery event)
Tuesday:
BP or Press intensity event

Summary: I will alternate Benching and Pressing on a weekly basis. I will vary training load throughout the week on the two exercises by having a volume event/recovery event/intensity event each week. This way I won't be killing 3-5 heavy worksets all the time...but I'll still be able to keep getting stronger.

-- Edited by winflex on Friday 12th of November 2010 10:01:20 AM

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Whenever I get this injury, my squats get affected. So although today would have been otherwise another day on my progression, I shut it down due to the overly distracting bicep pain. Honestly 375 felt really solid but my arm wouldn't let me push through.

SQ: work: 375X5, 3 (couldn't concentrate due to bicep issue), 315X5
Shut it down. Will press tomorrow.

I also have a new plan that should regulate the bicep irritation and also, I'm going to a new plan for my squats (part split program, part Texas method):
Fri: Press 5X5, chins
Sa: Squat 5x5, squat/dl assistance
Tues: Squat 1X5, Press 1X5, DL 1X5

In addition I will be doing some anti-inflammatory therapy for the next five days to get the inflammation under control.

I'm slightly disappointed that I didn't make it up to my PR of 395X5X3 but I've been injured enough this year to know when its time to switch things up. Tues, I'll go for 385X5 on squats...and for this week only I'll be doing presses on Saturday. The goal is still to squat 405 before thanksgiving...I just will only do 1 set though instead of 3.

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Once I'm safely squatting in the 400's I'll consider myself "back on track" and start a new log.

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Press: work: only did 205X1
SSB Good mornings: 3 sets

Press sucked today. Shoulder is still in bad shape. I think wearing an elbow sleeve actually exacerbates the situation as it squeezes down on my bicep. It may be time to get some XXXL elbow sleeves, as the XXL are too small. I attempted chins but my shoulder wouldn't have it. Goodmornings were a good addition. Next time I'll do these paused on a rack.

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Change in goal...will squat 405 before end of November. Learned that I will be traveling on Thanksgiving so that means that its going to be a stressfull week leading up to it and I don't want to mess up my chances of a clean 5 repper with 405. Instead I'll go for 395X5 next Tuesday. I think I can get away with the ten lb jumps for a little while yet as I haven't really done anything I haven't done before. Once I get past the hump, I'll take the slow and steady route. Good training session tonight though...

SQ: work: 385X5 (only a little shoulder pain...went away before presses...iced tonight - seems to be getting better)
Press: work: 225X5
DL: work: 445X5

On the video of my squats, I noticed that I'm really squatting slow. This is most likely to me being cautious about my knee and my adductor. I think with the change in program, I will develop more confidence and speed the reps up some. Next Tuesday I will also scale the deads back 5% as I noticed that I have been getting lazy with the back extension. It won't affect me now because the weight is lower than I'm capable but when I get to the weight that I'm capable I want to be on point with the form.

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you are so methodical with you training!!

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Thanks!

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Press 5X5
Press: work: 202.5X5X5 - 1st time 5X5ing so this would count as a 5X5 PR
Chins: 3 sets

I feel like I'm going to love this plan. It was a lot of work but it was more manageable than doing everything in one session. 5X5 squat tomorrow and a good night's rest tonight. Awesome.

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Stressfull week before Thanksgiving.  Are you afraid they will only have one bird?


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No, just all the traveling and getting stuff together beforehand. I'm not one that likes long trips; so, I tend to make it worse for myself...and I end up wasting energy on being a bad attitude.

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Squat 5X5
SQ: work: 340X5X5 - second time 5x5'ing on squats...last time I did 315 so this is a real PR here.
SSB GM's: did not do because I was teaching a friend of mine how to squat, press, deadlift, and bench
Chins: same excuse as SSB GM's

I couldn't decide on whether to do 335 or 345 for my 5x5 squats so I went half on it and decided on 340. It felt really good. 'Twas a lot of work again but again totally manageable. I couldn't imagine doing these 5x5 and then presses 5X5 and then deadlifting for 5 after that. I don't have the time and I don't have the available sleep/recovery ability to make up for it.
On the flipside of this session, I taught someone how to do the lifts today and started them off on the basic program. This is the third person (the first two were my brother and my wife) I have been able to teach which isn't much but it just feels great to be able to spread information and help people achieve their goals.

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Dwayne - that is really cool that you are helping people out. I am sure that they thay all really appreciate it!!

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Its just like at the posing classes. Its just fun to help and see others do their best. Maybe its just the dad in me.

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Squat 1X5, Press 1X5, Dead 1X5
Squat: work: 395X5 - not a PR but its 10 lbs above when I hurt myself in June...and no knee pain!! but a little bit of shoulder pain...which affected...
Presses: work: 227.5x4 - PR but not how I wanted.  I wanted all 5.  I almost didn't press but I HTFU'ed and nearly got all 5.
Deads:
This was kind of the focus of the night.  I always felt that conventional style pull was not the right one for me because I could never really get as good of a lumbar extension that I needed to.  Granted I did get stronger without having perfect lumbar extension; I just felt it was time to do what I needed to do to work on this. After several videos, I decided to switch to sumo pulling....not super wide sumo pulling like at a powerlifting meet but just enough so that I could get a better set up position on the pull.  I will never have shorter femurs or longer arms to make my conventional set up more productive.  So its better just to artificially shorten my femurs by opening the stance a tad.  The plus side of this is better lumbar extension as well.

So after a bunch of sets I ended doing 385X5 conventionally and then 385X5 "sumo".  I also have pics of the two setups and you can see why I'm going with the switch.  Also, I have a pic of my 395X5 squat at depth.  I always check the vid as a sanity check for my depth.  I know I'm hitting it and I don't want there to be a doubt...because if there is any doubt, then there is a doubt. Pics in subsequent posts.

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conventional set up (lumbar not great):


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"sumo" set up (much better lumbar):


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Also note the shortness of my upper arm (humerus), this where the pressing power comes from.  I have T-rex humerii.

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Thursday:
Packing, driving 3 hrs, feasting, talking, sleeping not in my bed, waking in the middle of the night several times for several reasons, walking up and downstairs since I wasn't in my flat, etc. I had a good time, and caloric intake was high, so I should be feeling great...but not. The other factors left me drained.

Friday:
Press 5X5: Had a great breakfast and headed to "not my" gym in NJ but it was a good gym... way better than "my" gym. I trained alongside two 2010 Arnold Sports Festival Powerlifting champion, Janel Brown, and her husband, another great powerlifter, Jim Brown. Plus, my wife came with me because we could leave the little one with the grandparents. So, all of that stuff helped cancel out how hard this would have been. Energy was flying high and I hit a PR>

Press: 205X5X5 - PR 5x5

Saturday:
Squat 5X5: 3 hr drive home, bad sleep again, wake up exhausted....but still make myself go train. Now I'm back my NJ gym...no one is there. I'm exhausted despite taking my pre-workout drink. 135 goes up really creaky. 225 is better and so is 275 and 315. So I get to my work weight thinking maybe there will be a change how my energy is flowing...but I was kidding myself. 345 goes up so slow and non-energetically. I'm just going through the motions. I do one crappy set and then I shut it down and went home. I hate when that happens.

I have to figure out how 1X5 day is going to go down this week. 405 for 5 may have to wait another week. Fail.

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You are right Dave. There is no reason why I couldn't at least go for 405 today and if I don't get 5....so what! I'll be back on track next week.

In other news, I pulled my right calf muscle this weekend. I don't know how but it must just be me getting older. It feels good enough to train today though. A little Alleve will do the trick.

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1X5 Day

Press: work: 230X2 - I need to start benching again and I need to not mess with my normal warmup
Squat: work: 405X3 - Went for 405 anyway even though I missed the volume work Saturday...didn't get 5 but I matched my PR from 7 months ago before the injury...and a video
Deads (semi-sumo): work: 405X5..still getting used to the change but back extension is hugely improved.

Here are DA SQUATS from today:


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Bench 5X5
BP: work: 325X5X5 - went conservative since I haven't benched in about 3 weeks.
Lat pulls: 3 sets of a lot of reps...shoulders felt good here.

Trained with a person from work today at a large globo facility. The bench was narrow and low. The hooks were super hooky. It wasn't a great experience but I still had fun. I won't bench there again.

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Squat 5X5, Dead 1X5
Squat: work: 345X5X5 - last set sucked in real time but looked good on video playback. Otherwise, felt very strong everywhere else.
Deads: work: 425X5 - went with conventional form today because sumo was feeling too squatty and not enough back work.

Worked again with some friends from work this time at my local gym. Fixed up one's form and monitored the other (he was from the other 5X5 saturday). This is going to be fun watching these two guys the next couple months. Two weeks ago, the one who I worked with deadlifted 200X5 for his first day and today he did 260X5 with better form than me. He has never trained at all before with weights so I'm excited to see how this goes with him. The other guy had lifted weights before but never really pushed himself or learned proper form. He started today with a 280 deadlift. He said he'd never done that before. I can see him breezing through the 300's in the next month or so. Training with these guys also helps me out because its always more motivating to train with a group focused on the same thing than to train alone. Plus, their quick progress motivates me to push myself harder but also smarter because I gain a better eye for technique by watching other people.

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Light Squat: 2 sets
Light Press: 2 sets
Stretch, Foam Roll, Lacrosse Ball, etc.

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